Episode 4

We Are Not Numbers: A Palestinian story of life under occupation

Published on: 12th August, 2025

We are not numbers: A Palestinian story of life under occupation. Ahmed Alnaouq is known for being the Palestinian journalist who lost 21 members of his family in an Israaeli military strike after October 7th.

But he's more than that. He's an author and editor on a mission to push back against the dehumanization of Palestinians in the Western media and by Western governments. He's here to remind us that Palestinians are not just numbers but a people who have suffered under the brutality of Israeli occupation for decades, and whose lives have been controlled, shaped, and cut short by that occupation well before the October 7th attacks on Israel.

He talks to Jasmine about pain, grief, resilience and what he hopes to see for Palestine in the future.

This week, the view is from Gaza.

Purchase Ahmed's book We are Not Numbers here: https://wearenotnumbers.org/buy-our-book/

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The View from Here aims to showcase a wide range of views and opinions, which do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast or its host.

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The View From Here
The View From Here with Jasmine El-Gamal
The View From Here is a brand-new weekly podcast hosted by former Pentagon official and foreign policy analyst Jasmine El-Gamal.

Each Tuesday, Jasmine connects the dots between global headlines and the human stories behind them.

From war rooms to conflict zones to refugee camps, she draws on her experiences to examine how policy decisions impact real lives, uncovering the unseen costs of power.

The View from Here is foreign policy, reimagined: from the people shaping it, to those it impacts.

Get in touch with us with your thoughts and questions! You can find us at viewfromherepod@gmail.com.

Disclaimer: The View from Here aims to showcase a wide range of views and opinions, which do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast or its host.

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Jasmine El-Gamal

Jasmine El-Gamal is a foreign policy analyst and former Pentagon official who cares deeply about building bridges and changing the way we talk and think about policies that affect us all.

In this polarized, tribal environment, we've lost something essential. We've lost our ability to see each other's humanity across political and cultural divides.

As a first-generation Arab-American who's navigated cultures across North America, the Middle East, and Europe, Jasmine knows what it's like to live between worlds. To see how the same event can be understood completely differently depending on where you're standing.

The View from Here is her brand new podcast where she will break down foreign policy, and the news, and their impact on the humans behind the headlines.